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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 07:36 PM
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Hey guys, I moved this from the new members section.

Ok, here is the run down on what I need:

1. An off road vehicle with capabilities comparable to that of a small 4x4

2. cheap

3. easy to work on in the mountains/ easy to recover from rocks or rollover

4. aproximately 12 in of ground clearance

5. capable of carrying 4 adults with Search and Rescue gear (reason for the hood space available in the super)

6. still be street legal and capable of highway speeds

7. I am based out of Abq which is aprox. 5,000 ft above sea level but work as high as 11,000 ft above sea level, I would like to make this climb without much loss of power
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I was thinking that the easiest way to get the ground clearance would be to weld a tube frame with A-arms with a double wish bone suspension. The issue I'm running into about raising the frame is how much positive camber the rear wheels will have, does anyone know if there is a way to reduce/ remove all the extra camber?

The other issue I'm having is with power, I don't think the 1600dp that's on it now will get it throught the terrain I want it to. Does anyone know the largest carburated aircooled engine the will fit into a rig like this?

I don't have any reservations about chopping the car to make room for these modifications, but I would like to do it fairly cheap.

It doesn't have to go fast off road it just has to be durable. And like I said above, it's more for mountain climbing than for desert racing.

Does anyone have any ideas? All advice will be appreciated.

Joseph Clark

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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 02:04 AM
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12" of clearance on a Baja is pretty easy. Cut and turn front, re-index the rear and get some tall tires. With an IRS rear, you won't see the camber.

I take my Baja from 5500' to 10,000', no noticeable difference in power. It's a stock 1600, not fast, but capable of highway speeds.

You really don't need to chop the car at all. Build a class 11 style. That'll allow you to keep the trunk space, then you can add a roof rack.

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I was just thinking, with 4 adults and all that gear, you're going to want a bigger engine than stock. $3000 will get you a nice 1915 which fits in a Bug with ease.

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Problem is you picked cheap. 80s and 90s 4 door Jeep Cherokees are getting dirt cheap. $1000-2000. Installing new tires, a roof rack, lockers and a winch add another $3000. With a Baja I would want a 2275 W 100 cam, single carb, with a 3 rib Bus transaxle, winch, oil cooler mounted inside to be used as a defroster / heater. (I heard it is a little colder up there in the winter), large roof rack. If you could build it yourself the Baja would cost double or more but you would have a faster responce time as long as it was not in muddy condtitions. It would be nice to have the Baja for a quick initial response and the Jeep for weather dangerous for a 2WD. There was a girl with two broken ankles stuck on FR 192 for 12 hours (from accident to arrival at the E-Room). A Baja or rail with a paramedic would of been there in 1-1.5 hours.

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I have two engine combos other people told me made a lot of torque.
A 1835 with single carb. This in a baja pulled a trailer out hunting in the mountains of northern az.
A 2010 with dual kadrons and engle w100 cam. This in a rail able to climb rocks.
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With four large adults and rescue gear there will be no replacement for displacement and low gearing. If it was mine I would go 90x94 and a W 100 cam but those are a little more expensive to build.

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3. easy to work on in the mountains/ easy to recover from rocks or rollover

The WEEBLE effect...?


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Hey guys,

Thanks for all the advice. I've gotten more help in this forum in a week than I have in a month of just looking around town. But I still have some questions:

1. What do you guys think of the tube frame idea?

2. I know that power is a great thing in the mountains, but what about the gearing?

-Joseph

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AzBaja wrote:
3. easy to work on in the mountains/ easy to recover from rocks or rollover

The WEEBLE effect...?

Laughing that might work if I hadn't raised the CG. But I don't plan on getting onto any inclines quite that steep, it's just the "what if" factor that made me add that. Cool

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You can get close to 4 mph in 1st gear with the T-2 3 rib transaxle and 30" tall tires as opposed to 6 mph with the stock 12 volt T-1 gearing. It doers not seem like much but often I wished I could go 1 mph in 1st.

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You can get close to 4 mph in 1st gear with the T-2 3 rib transaxle and 30" tall tires as opposed to 6 mph with the stock 12 volt T-1 gearing. It doers not seem like much but often I wished I could go 1 mph in 1st.

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