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Ball joints fail most of the time because you exceed their travel limits...if you put stops on the arms to control this they are really strong and hold up to alot of abuse.......linkpin is a simple and lighter way to go but they need to be strengthened in different ways....both will work well....just ask Daryll he will guide you in the right direction....hope that helps


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coilovers are not legal in 5/1600...might want to replan your design. im running fox 2.0 10' w/rezzies in the rear and fox 2.0 8' emulsion in the front.

you will definatly need a helmet (may want to look at a rule book about specs on the helmet(but whiplash is somewhat lax on that)) i am having a full roll cage built with a new front end with everything all tied together to form a full tube chassis. some people like to run bypass shocks as well but you better bring your check book with bypass shocks.

like was said above. build your car better than expected. the tech guys are there to prevent your car from hurting you. i hope they check my ride in and out. better get yourself some nice race trim or pro seatz with some aproved belts. fuel cell (about 12-15 gal)

there is alot going on when building a race car i guess im trying to say. be ready for a real project and a real money pit. with these car having to run by spec every little bit helps to get you in front.

if you need any help or advice let me know or anyone know and ill try to find an answer for you. im new to the thing also and have learned way more than i thought in this process.


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I have motorcycle helmets, and firesuits, just not the new nomex lined helmets for car use.

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I have a balljoint beam in both my baja and my sand rail, like was said earlier, knowing the limits of your front suspension and driving it accordingly is the key to long life. The other option is I can build you a link pin beam that will bolt into a balljoint frame head. PM me if interested. <<< shameless plug.... Mr. Green


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hey navynuke...i was doin some looking around on another thread of your baja project. first off let me say it is an amazing baja and i wish i could have one like that lol.

on a side note...that car will never be legal for 5/1600 class in whiplash in a million years if you plan on keeping it that way (which you should!!)

you would be entering class 5 unlimited. 5/1600 class requires a 1600cc engine, stock length and width and does not allow coilovers.

so if you plan on racing with us than i would start building a new car or just plan on running the unlimited class.

i didnt mean to thread jack at all. if your still interested in knowing a bit more about racing setup another thread and we can talk all day about what you can and cant do.


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hey navynuke...i was doin some looking around on another thread of your baja project. first off let me say it is an amazing baja and i wish i could have one like that lol.

on a side note...that car will never be legal for 5/1600 class in whiplash in a million years if you plan on keeping it that way (which you should!!)

you would be entering class 5 unlimited. 5/1600 class requires a 1600cc engine, stock length and width and does not allow coilovers.

so if you plan on racing with us than i would start building a new car or just plan on running the unlimited class.

i didnt mean to thread jack at all. if your still interested in knowing a bit more about racing setup another thread and we can talk all day about what you can and cant do.

Or race in the sportsman class which was my intention.


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ya have fun with that. sportsman cars rip. the 5/1600 class is alot easyer on the checkbook. not that this car isnt takin me for what im worth but still alot cheaper.

sportsman is fine...but not very competitve with the other v8 powerd cars out there


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so is there a way to have a long travel ball joint front end like the link pins?

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so is there a way to have a long travel ball joint front end like the link pins?

No, the ball joint articulation is the limiter. I think 6-8" is max.


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i see. so how hard is it to change the frame head to a link pin?

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i see. so how hard is it to change the frame head to a link pin?

You have several options:
1, Buy a conversion beam from Bugzylla.
2, Cut the frame head off and weld a link beam frame head on it.
3, Cut the frame head off and mount the beam to tubes attached to the roll cage.
4, Cut the top of the frame head, mount the link pin beam and support the beam to the roll cage.

Difficulty is determined by your ability. Note: I paid to have option 3 done.


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ok so cut the old one off and weld the new one in. nice. thanx

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