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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 06:18 AM
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JumpinBruceB I'll get that picture if you still need it of the hammered spray stuff when I take some of the front that I just painted. Sorry it's been so long, I've been super busy with classes and working on the bug that I haven't had time to take any pictures.

As for the rust bullet, I really like it. Im sure if it was sprayed on it would look AWESOME! I don't have the equipment to spray, nor do I have the patience to mask everything. I did two coats with a brush and Im pretty darn satisfied. It goes a really long way, they say a gallon does 200 sq feet and I believe it. Im considering doing my whole cage with it.

If anyones interested in using it here are some tips. Use an old or cheap brush, it's a pain to get off. They recommend using acetone, exylene, tolulene or MEK for cleaning. Im sure those would work well, but all I had was denatured alcohol. If it gets on a fairly smooth surface it wipes off easy with water and a paper towel, just don't let it sit. It does bubble if you get it on to thick. Looks ugly, but hopefully doesn't affect it's rust preventive properties to much. Hmmm... Thats all I can think of right now. I'll get pictures up as soon as I can.


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Yea i would like to get a pic of the can and of the rust bullet im prepping my car right now to spray the entire interior with this stuff except for the floor i think im gonna do that with herculiner. im excited to see your results with it. I plan on spraying but maybe i will change my mind

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I just took a few pics so here they are.

BruceB if you have the ability to spray it would probably be a lot better to do the rust bullet that way. I think thats what it is really made for, I just wanted something I could brush on and this fit the bill. I'll pass on some info I got from T_Town_Baja (the guy I bought my baja from), he told me that herculiner, line x, and all those type of truck bed liners will tend to break if you hit them hard enough. I thought about it, and it makes sense. The metal of a VW floor pan is thin and pretty malleable, so if you coat it with something that is that is brittle like that you could end up with a cracked pan as opposed to a bent one. T_Town recommended something more like this:

www.partsamerica.com/p...yCode=3279

It seems to be more of a rubber coating thats thinner, but still protects and will bend not crack. If you bend it, just kick it hard or get a hammer. Just a thought, I'm not an expert by any means but this is probably what Im gonna use, because it's a bit cheaper.

On the rust bullet site, there's a picture of a kit car, it's a 2 seat mid engine deal from grabercars.com. That thing is SICK! And there from Cave Creek, AZ! Its not a VW but I would roll one any day, except if it was raining, or snowing, or freezing. But still I would love to roll one. Totally check it out.

Alright on to pictures.

Here's the paint and the rust bullet can on my cluttered tool box.


Here's a couple of before pictures (it's so nice to have decent pictures for once).



After shots.



And finally a close up.


Uhhhh that was a long post...


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I just took a few pics so here they are.

BruceB if you have the ability to spray it would probably be a lot better to do the rust bullet that way. I think thats what it is really made for, I just wanted something I could brush on and this fit the bill. I'll pass on some info I got from T_Town_Baja (the guy I bought my baja from), he told me that herculiner, line x, and all those type of truck bed liners will tend to break if you hit them hard enough. I thought about it, and it makes sense. The metal of a VW floor pan is thin and pretty malleable, so if you coat it with something that is that is brittle like that you could end up with a cracked pan as opposed to a bent one. T_Town recommended something more like this:

www.partsamerica.com/p...yCode=3279

It seems to be more of a rubber coating thats thinner, but still protects and will bend not crack. If you bend it, just kick it hard or get a hammer. Just a thought, I'm not an expert by any means but this is probably what Im gonna use, because it's a bit cheaper.

James -

The chasis looks DAMN good finished in silver, mind selling her back to me???????? (j/k)

Regarding the Line-x/herculiner vs a rubberized coating, I think a chime in from Daryll would be beneficial. He uses the Herculiner a lot. I speak from past experience on my pops jeeps and landcruisers, he had several of them line-x'd (the inner floors of the tub). They layed it nice and thick and it held up well for a bit, but after a while as we really got into rough stuff, the liner didnt 'give' enough. One example was a rock kicked up and crushed a section of the "pan" which ended up cracking the liner and from there it just spread. Given this was several years ago so I dont know if the new stuff is better.

I personally like the Duplicolor stuff, it has a nice "give" to it and you can spray it thicker if you like. Another great product is the Marhyde(sp?) rubberized undercoating. That stuff lays nice and thick and is a true rubberized coating(great for sound deadning/under package tray, etc), but you need to let it cure for quite a while to get it to stick well.


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Jeez... I don't wanna be a winer but I'm getting tired of having other things get in the way of working on and playing with the baja. Such as classes, work, sleep, eating, etc...

Didn't have a lot of time to work on the baja this weekend. Saturday was spent doing routine maintenance on my other car. I wanted to get it out of the way so I did it first, but after going out and by all the required fluids, filters and etc... it took up most of the day.

Then today I had to write an essay which took up the morning. I did manage to get out and do an oil change and check the transaxle fluid. Had to buy a 17 mm allen wrench and that thing is HUGE! Not only can I work on the baja with it but I can use it as a self defense weapon. Oh, and I got all the wiring for the horn put back together.

I was completely flummoxed by that thing. I still don't understand why the relay needs a wire going into the positive side on the fuse box... but it does. I checked all the connections, made sure the all the wires went to the right places and even second guessed myself on how I grounded the horn button. Finally I gave up and ran a wire to the + on the fuse box. Then I unplugged the fuel pump from the coil, put the key in and turned it to the on position and pressed the button. Shocked That thing is freaking loud! The car was parked in the garage and it scared the hell out of me, and even my parents and dog who were in the house.

With all that done, Im gonna start driving it to work this week. I have my turn signal switch mounted to the steering column, but not wired yet. I still can't decided if I wanna run an extra set of lights for it. Then I need to paint the cage, which will be so much fun! I think the only way to do that is gonna be to pull the seats, and maybe even the fuel cell. I need to wire wheel the floor and coat it with the Du Pont rubber coating, but have been hesitant about doing that with the fuel cell in the car. Might as well pull it along with the seats when I do the cage...

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Can't forget thanks for the compliment on the paint Blaine. I put the hood back on and it makes the chassis stand out really nicely. It made an awesomely built car look even better.


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I was out messing with the baja and I noticed a lug bolt missing on my driver side front wheel. There wasn't a lot of dirt in there so I figured it probably fell out recently on the way home from work. I talked to a neighbor of mine and asked if he had a lug bolt for a 5 lug VW he said sure and grabbed one. I tried to put it on a bit later and it started to go in quite nicely but once it got tighter it started spinning like the threads were stripped. I didn't wanna pull the others out and compare so I took a picture with my webcam. Is this the right bolt? If not do I need to buy a new brake drum? Does anyone have one laying around for cheap? $30.00 to $50.00 for a drum is a bit pricey.



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pull your drums of drill them out and put some studs in them. I use Chevy truck/car studs on my Baja.


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Thanks for the idea AzBaja, thats next on my list. I prefer the idea of press in over screw in, and since one of the holes has stripped threads I guess that kinda wouldn't work... I checked Summit to see if they had any really awesome studs and what do you know they do, but they are about 10-20 per wheel. What do studs for a Chevy truck cost?

Finally took the baja out and really got in the dirt this afternoon. Bled the brakes beforehand. They could definitely use a cleaning and adjustment, but Im gonna wait to do that when I get the new studs. Anyways I went out a popular jeep/forrest road called Senator Hwy. It goes from Prescott to Crown King (Old mining camp that still has some residents, a bar, etc). All the way to Crown King is about 26 miles of dirt and switchbacks. We only went to a place called Palace Station, it's an old stage stop and is only about half that. It was an awesome drive and I found out the baja climbs like a beast. There's some hills that I've gone up in Subarus and Explorers (in AWD and 4WD) with a good deal of wheel spin, but with the BFG muds on there the baja charged up no problem. Went through some serious puddles and got a little squirrely on the smooth part of the road. All around a good day! Can't wait to do it again. Theres a lot of old mines up in the area I'd like to check out.


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Heyaaaaahhhhhh! It's my B-day! Time to go drink expensive beer, and eat disgustingly unhealthy, but delicious cake!


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car looks good

i was wondering if you could snap a few more pictures of the tubes running to your front beam? im starting that project tomorrow. may i ask what the specs on your front susp are?
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Just take a rim down to pepboys or autozone and you can find the press in studs. I drilled my rims out a fraction of an inch to fit the studs. Also make sure the lug nuts are corect for your rims. Ball or cone lug nuts. if you use the the wrong lug for your rim the nuts will come loose.

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Thanks 90xj, I'll get more pics up ASAP. It's kinda dirty right now, and to be honest I'm not in any shape to be using a camera (Prescott Brewing Company and cheap champagne). I don't know any solid specs on the front suspension. It was all built by T_Town_Baja, not real sure if he has any specs on it either. If he does I think he might let you in on the secrets. All I know is that it is 6 inches forward and 6 inches wider...

Thanks again Eric... Going to get that done the weekend after this one, maybe this Sunday. I think mine are cone, hopefully they will know the difference. I'll take a wheel and see...


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