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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:58 PM
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so ive been having alot of trouble getting my shifter to work properly in my 68 baja bug. the car came with an old hurst trigger shifter that had the bolt slots shaved out on the sides to adjust the shifter to the side more i guess. so i got a new empi trigger shifter, which i cant even get close to working. so i got a stock shifter. with the stock shifter, for 1st you have to go over to the right a little and up to get into gear, 2nd is reverse, and 3rd and 4th work fine. other times first and 3rd wont work but reverse and 4th will Rolling Eyes . i have gotten the old hurst to go through all the gears, but it was tricky. i was thinking that the shift rod its self might be bent too much or is just not long enough.

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The guys at my local VW/buggy shop told me a "slight" bow in the rod is ok. I've found out by experience that correct placement of the mounting (base?) plate - with stock shifters - is critical. If yours has been messed around with a lot, you might save your self a lot of headaches by getting a pro's opinion. Oh yeah, check the condition of that plastic bushing in the tunnel a few inches behind the shifter too.


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I second that. Check that plastic bushing and where it snaps in. Make sure the mount and bushing are still there and not broken off or cracked.


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my buddy has an auto stick and we have had the same problem it stays in third or l2. if that coupling is not broke or cracked. then you really need to play with the shift base plate that being tweaked just a little will make that shifter not work. now if none of that works i would check out your shift coupling which is located under the rear seat. under a plate that unscrews check the rubber bushings for free play it will have a little because it is rubber then check for broken pieces of that coupling. if it still dosnt work you are going to have to pull the front nose cone off the tranny and check the hockey stick. anyone have anything else to add please do.


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Does a '68 have the shift coupling bushing under the back seat? Those can cause a lot of grief if they're bad (sorry- all my VW's have been '65 or earlier, so I may be off on this one).


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az thats a good question i believe it is on my 70 it is. i am not to sure how much they have changed in 2 years.


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az the coupling that on later models its shaped like a horeshoe that has rubber bushings on each side that whole assembly then connects to the tranny shift rod selecter. and it is under the inspection cover under the back seat its really hard to describe the part go on to chirco.com and type this number into the search box on the left hand side CPR711108


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That is the one I was referring to- it says '65 and later. That thing can take a LOT of slop out of your shift linkage. I had a '65 sedan that kept grinding toward reverse when I was looking for second, plus the shifter would move side to side like 3 inches when the car was in gear. I looked under the seat and that coupler was TOAST! The urethane piece was GONE on one side, etc. After replacing it, it felt like I was driving a brand new car practically! Unreal.


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yea that is what happen with mine to


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Take out the shifter grab the shift rod with needle nose Visegrips or some baling wire. If you can lift it up and down about 1/4" you have a bad shift rod bushing. Replace the rear coupler bushing under the rear seat with the Sway Away red urethane pieces. I have seen bent shift input selector rod in the transaxle nose cone. Worn nose cone bushings are a possibility but it is also rare like the bent hockey stick. I'm partial to GB and Scat shifters since they always work out of the box vs an Empi which usually does not work out of the box. I have had good luck with the Hurst shifter but it was fairly new. Scat sell a weld in rear section of the shifter rod that is adjustable but the shifter ,rod and coupler bushing must be ok for it to work. I could check it out and get it going for you if you were nearby. If the shifter worked fine in the past, I would suspected the two bushings.

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thanks guys! but i had just recently replaced the bushing near the shifter, and the coupler in the back. its the horse shoe shaped 1. BUT... the coupler is already broken and is screwed up(bad quality). so i will try the urethane 1.
and i also ran into another problem... when i try to come out of first gear i really have to punch the gas or else it will stall. as soon as i start letting off on the clutch, it basically stalls. could the clutch be mis adjusted? i've driven stock bugs, this is WAY harder to drive. it wouldn't make it up a hill from a dead stop. i am pushing big tires on it, but i don't think it would be this hard.

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Big tires should only make it sluggish.

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yea, thats what i thought. i replaced the clutch, pressure plate, and TOB when i put the new engine in it soo the clutch is new.

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could a sloppy coupler make it do what its doing tho?

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Yes put the red Sway Away ones in it.

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