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has anyone ever considered a mopar 4 banger or a chevy 3.1l v6?


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Mopar 2.2/2.5 = crap (most had cracks between the valve seats within the first 10k miles)........GM 3.1 = crap (blows head gaskets easily)

My top 5 pics if you are going to do a swap (in no particular order)

Toyota 22R
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Toyota 2TC

I have a 2tc bottom end (no head) with a deep sump pan for free if anyone wants it

All have tons of parts available in the aftermarket, and are reasonable weight wise.


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What is a toyota 2tc out of?


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Post Post subject: Re: other engines for bajas
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has anyone ever considered a mopar 4 banger or a chevy 3.1l v6?

While not real popular choices, I am sure that they have been used at one time or another for a Baja or rail. The majority of the time, engine conversions are picked on a "bang for the buck" basis. I used a Subaru transplant as an example earlier, so I will stick with that. A twin turbo Subaru 2.0 comes stock with a shot over 250 horsepower. It is not uncommon at ALL for one of them to go 200,000 miles and over. With some looking around, I have bought them for as low as 400 (good deal). They sell everyday on E-bay for 850 plus shipping, price of shipping depends on how close you are to them. cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotor...enameZWDVW

So really, what you end up with is a stock engine, that has at a minimum 100,000 miles left in it, only weighs slightly more than a VW and has over 250 hp. If you are good at finding deals and are patient, you can do this pretty cheap. If you just got to have all the stuff right now and don't mind paying full price. You will be rubbing 3 grand when done. I have done it a number of different ways, from custom built big dollar, 570hp Subaru conversions to one that just barley squeaked over a thousand bucks. I would say a good average would be around 2500. That is a lot of "bang for the buck". Also...with a few slight mods to the turbo and exhaust, they will easily jump over 300 hp safely.
The large percent of us want the most for our dollar...the green stuff is not all that easy to come by, so we want to get all we can out of what we have. If you are wanting more power and longer engine life and you can get it at a much lower price...it just seems reasonable to take that direction.
If you are truly happy with your current engine set-up, don't change it just because someone said something else was better. As a matter of fact...if you are happy with your car...then I am jealous, because I am never satisfied with anything, when I make it fast...in two months I want it faster. I envy those who are content with low power...it takes a lot less time and money.


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which subaru motors are best to mate to the vw trany?


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2.5 is the most popular, but stay away from 99 to 02 model years because they had cooling and head problems....thats what i've read


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so, 2.5, is there a specific title for the motors? like the toyotas have them?


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This is what a 2.0 turbo-ed subaru looks like in a rail.

And here is a shot of it in action.

My dad swears by that little 2.0. I thought I had heard that a lot of the 2.5s were having problems? I could very well be incorrect, but it seems like I remember reading it somewhere. I will say this as well nube, if you plan on running a stock type1 trans, you better be real light on the gas in first and second or you will tear it up quicker than you can believe.


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well. ive been thinking.
i'll probably have about 5k near the end of september.
i would like to find a motor (mazda,porsche, subaru, vw, ecotec) to put in my bug.
yeah, i would like to have something reliable, high-output, and did i mention fast? maybe about 200hp....
those pics look great, but my foot is kinda hard on the gas... i guess i imagine having a corvette power, reliability and control in a vw...
is there some one that can help me build and get a motor running that could work within those limits?
i know i won't be able to do this on my own...

i think this should be another post...


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You can definitely run the subaru hard, just not with a stock trans. If you were to get an 091 bus trans or another beefy trans, you should be able to run it real hard. I would think you could get a subaru, adapter plate, wiring harness/computer, and anything else you may need for it and still have enough left out of that 5k to get a decent trans. Darryl or someone who really knows what they are talking about should be along before too long and they will have a better estimate for you than I do. lol. My dad already had a built 091 in his rail when he switched to the subaru. I believe that he spent just under 3k for the subaru and all he needed to put it in the car.


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I read the whole thread, as this discussion has been going on some time, but I didn't see a mention of the RX7 Rotary (12A). I have three blocks, one being complete with thermal reactor (exhaust manifold) and carb, etc. I've been itching forever to get them torn down to see if any are rebuildable.

I know from my experience that they are very weak on the low end torque but can produce huge RPM stock and even more ported. I had one that I'd regularly push to over 8K RPM and blow the doors off most anything I came up against (Yes younger years).

The 1st gear on the VW is very short and I think that the low weight and high RPM capability as well as the low torque can be a very reliable combination for any variation of driving.

I checked with kennedy and they have the adapter for $400, but require a counterwieght from an automatic trans. I'm not sure what that would be for since the manual trans engine seemed to run fine without it, unless it has to do with the stock flywheel.

I just thought I'd throw this into the mix, although I won't be able to afford the conversion anytime in the near future, unless I can find someone selling the adapter for cheap. I'd still have to figure out an ignition system and probably put a different carb, etc. on. Just wanted to share my thoughts.


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We had a 13B in the Porche 914, it was a rocket ship.

Yes you need the counterwieght from an automatic trans. To install the engine in a VW or Porche...This was a hard to find part in the early 90's and had to pay the price for it. I'm sure it's evan harder to find today.

Last Rotarys do not like dirt or sand etc. you get a little into the engine and it will destroy it. If you street it it should be fine but I would not use one for off road, not evan the sand dunes were the RPMS ould be fun...Dirt and Sand, Dirt and Sand...and Teflon seals will not survive.

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I read the whole thread, as this discussion has been going on some time, but I didn't see a mention of the RX7 Rotary (12A). I have three blocks, one being complete with thermal reactor (exhaust manifold) and carb, etc. I've been itching forever to get them torn down to see if any are rebuildable.

I know from my experience that they are very weak on the low end torque but can produce huge RPM stock and even more ported. I had one that I'd regularly push to over 8K RPM and blow the doors off most anything I came up against (Yes younger years).

The 1st gear on the VW is very short and I think that the low weight and high RPM capability as well as the low torque can be a very reliable combination for any variation of driving.

I checked with kennedy and they have the adapter for $400, but require a counterwieght from an automatic trans. I'm not sure what that would be for since the manual trans engine seemed to run fine without it, unless it has to do with the stock flywheel.

I just thought I'd throw this into the mix, although I won't be able to afford the conversion anytime in the near future, unless I can find someone selling the adapter for cheap. I'd still have to figure out an ignition system and probably put a different carb, etc. on. Just wanted to share my thoughts.


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I think the coolest setup i have ever seen was a 351c twin turbo with a pantara transaxle. It was used mostly for sand drags but he took it to the dunes too i guess. he said that it had 1000 horses. I know that the 351 single turbo that he took out had 800 horses. He sold it to my boss when i was in high school so many years ago and we couldn't find anything to put it in. I wasn't into sand rails at that point in my life and i could afford the 6000 bucks he wanted for it to put it in my 68 mustang.

poor high school kid Sad

come to think of it i wish i had 6000 bucks now.

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nice
i saw a drag vw that had 2300hp.


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