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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 04:20 PM
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If I was to rotate the adjuster 1/4in up (the same as just cut and turning a stock beam) would that still raise the front without changing the spring rate if the adjuster was on its lowest setting??
and if I want a stiffer spring rate than I could crank the adjuster?!?! Is this correct??

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You'll lose your adjustability

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You'll lose your adjustability

But by turning the adjuster screw as if you were raising the front would that make it for a stiffer ride??

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Depends on if you have removed your stops, but the farther away from stock you go the rougher the ride can be, also remember in most cases they are 30+ year old springs, possibility of breaking is there too.

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Depends on if you have removed your stops, but the farther away from stock you go the rougher the ride can be, also remember in most cases they are 30+ year old springs, possibility of breaking is there too.

I thought about the old leaf springs being too old so I was going to replace them anyways. The way I understand is that if I was to rotate the adjuster as if I was cutting and turning the stock nut and bolt assembly I would still get the height and stock ride if the adjuster was set to the lowest setting. If I wanted it to stiffen the ride I could just turn the bolt on the adjuster.

Am I right on this or way off?!?

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Depends on if you have removed your stops, but the farther away from stock you go the rougher the ride can be, also remember in most cases they are 30+ year old springs, possibility of breaking is there too.

I thought about the old leaf springs being too old so I was going to replace them anyways. The way I understand is that if I was to rotate the adjuster as if I was cutting and turning the stock nut and bolt assembly I would still get the height and stock ride if the adjuster was set to the lowest setting. If I wanted it to stiffen the ride I could just turn the bolt on the adjuster.

Am I right on this or way off?!?

You're right, but why wouold you want to make the ride even stiffer??

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zx10r203 wrote:
Leatherneck wrote:
Depends on if you have removed your stops, but the farther away from stock you go the rougher the ride can be, also remember in most cases they are 30+ year old springs, possibility of breaking is there too.

I thought about the old leaf springs being too old so I was going to replace them anyways. The way I understand is that if I was to rotate the adjuster as if I was cutting and turning the stock nut and bolt assembly I would still get the height and stock ride if the adjuster was set to the lowest setting. If I wanted it to stiffen the ride I could just turn the bolt on the adjuster.

Am I right on this or way off?!?

You're right, but why wouold you want to make the ride even stiffer??

I am not saying i would want to. I just want to make sure that I am understanding the concept.

Does the adjusters provide the same height as cutting and turning? If they don't I can turn them 1/4" in to get maximum height

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Post Post subject: Re: Can the adjusters be rotated?
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I am going to run lift spindles. You should too. Im assuming 3" is going to be hard to get out of a ball joint (vw) any other way, besides body, but that just helps you run bigger tires (and bigger tires only give you a tiny bit of clearance... 30s and 33s are only 1.5" ground clearance different, yet alot more strain on your motor.


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Mykul wrote:
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Depends on if you have removed your stops, but the farther away from stock you go the rougher the ride can be, also remember in most cases they are 30+ year old springs, possibility of breaking is there too.

I thought about the old leaf springs being too old so I was going to replace them anyways. The way I understand is that if I was to rotate the adjuster as if I was cutting and turning the stock nut and bolt assembly I would still get the height and stock ride if the adjuster was set to the lowest setting. If I wanted it to stiffen the ride I could just turn the bolt on the adjuster.

Am I right on this or way off?!?

You're right, but why wouold you want to make the ride even stiffer??

I am not saying i would want to. I just want to make sure that I am understanding the concept.

Does the adjusters provide the same height as cutting and turning? If they don't I can turn them 1/4" in to get maximum height

It will provide the ability to raise as a cut and turn and also lower the front end too.

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Post Post subject: Re: Can the adjusters be rotated?
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Whats the maximum height the adjusters raise the front??

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Post Post subject: Re: Can the adjusters be rotated?
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 01:17 PM
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I am not sure exactly how much the adjusters will raise your car but I went out and measured the amount of adjustment I have on my adjusters. My adjuster are for a ball joint beam from mooreparts.

I measured a grand total of 5/8th" adjustment at the adjuster.

I set my adjusters all the way at the bottom of their adjustment and then welded them in the beam at the angle of a minor cut and turn....the grub screw was at approximately 4 O"CLOCK (look at where yours are sitting stock and add a bit of a cut and turn to them). From here I can crank another 5/8th" adjustment and I think that will be plenty for me.

FYI I am going to run 181 spindles/arms so I have about 3" of lift right there. I will crank the adjusters to stillen the suspension when I need it for running hard off road.

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Post Post subject: Re: Can the adjusters be rotated?
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 01:34 PM
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If you crank the torsion bars in the beam by any means, be it a cut and turn of the stock set up, or by turning the adjusters you are going to do two things....
1 Raise the ride height of the car.
2 Make the ride rough/stiff.

You cannot use the torsion bars to raise the ride height without a stiffer ride/spring rate.

If you want to keep the stock spring rate and get lift you need lift spindles.

The best of both worlds is a set of lift spindles combined with adjusters so you can tune the spring rate for rough running.

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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 04:14 PM
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zx10r203 wrote:
Whats the maximum height the adjusters raise the front??

The height on this was a on the ground 16"




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