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Post Post subject: Pulled over @ the car show today
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 07:18 AM
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as most of you know i have Police lights on my bug, they do serve an official purpose when i do Missions with the Patriot guard but are also used when i attend the KMART show on saturdays. (only when entering the show area IN THE PARKING LOT do i turn them on)

Well today i was pulled over in the parking lot while i was leaving, i had my lights off at the time and i had not yet reached the exit to the road, the Mesa Police stopped me in front of the KMART entrance and told me i had to remove the lights.

now, heres what's confusing me... i'm at a CAR SHOW! on PRIVATE PROPERTY, How can i get in trouble for using lights in the parking lot and not having them on anywhere NEAR the public roadway?

i plan to take this up with Mesa police department because i am required to have the lights when doing Funeral escorts with the Patriot Guard, i am getting certified to have them soon. (certified to use them on public streets during missions with the patriot guard)

i just wanted to hear your opinions! i've always thought it was legal to use any kind of lighting at car shows and such as long as they were not used on the public roadways.

First time i have EVER been pulled over. Sad


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Post Post subject: Re: Pulled over @ the car show today
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 07:39 AM
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maybe he was.........dun dun dun...... a PURIST!!! AHHHHH


haha taht was dumb, fight the system!!


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File a complaint. Did you get her badge number?


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Shocked PRESTON,,I THINK I TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT AT THE PIZZA THING..I CAN,T BELIVE YOU HAVN,T BEEN HASSELED BE FOR THIS,,THEY CANT, BE RED AND BLUE,,EVEN NOT LIT,, I THINK THEY CAN BE AMBER,,BUT NOT RED AND NOT BLUE,, RED AND BLUE (EMERG) AMBER (CAUTION) Wink


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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 03:48 PM
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I agree with Jim, You are lucky you havnt been hassled yet. Even if you are certified you probably will have to make the lights removable when not doing the escort thing. Its the law.


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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 05:55 PM
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if they wanted to be jurks about it, they could make you have covers on your off road ligths as well...so that being said, as long as you have covers on your red and blue lights you are ok to run them....

they have stupid people poseing as cops that have red and blue lights on there cars and pulling over people, thats why the attitude from the cop....


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Post Post subject: Re: Pulled over @ the car show today
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1FASTHOE wrote:
if they wanted to be jurks about it, they could make you have covers on your off road ligths as well...so that being said, as long as you have covers on your red and blue lights you are ok to run them....

they have stupid people poseing as cops that have red and blue lights on there cars and pulling over people, thats why the attitude from the cop....

i told them thats not what i was going for, but hey so does everyone else right?

anyway, i think i'm going to just get covers for them and NOT take them off. but i still think they have no juristiction on the parking lot because it's private property AND a car show. but i'm not trying to talk any crap about the police, i'm in thier side, thats another reason the lights are there, my baja will be dedicated to fallen officers and painted police black & white when it's done.


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Post Post subject: Re: Pulled over @ the car show today
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 07:44 PM
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I think you're going to have a hard time getting a judge or Mesa PD official to side with you on this. Did you get a "fix-it" ticket, or just a verbal warning? If I was you, I'd probably put covers on them, and ONLY take them off while on Patriot Guard missions, and that's IT. Anything more and you're inviting hassling from the police.

There's my .02.


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Post Post subject: Re: Pulled over @ the car show today
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just covered 'em and folded them upward so even if they were on you could only see them by helicopter Wink


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Post Post subject: Re: Pulled over @ the car show today
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well i talked to a few officers from different cities and looked up the Arizona State Statute on this issue and found that i am fully within my legal rights and i can have them on my vehicle and use them on private property as long as they are not used on a public roadway, just like i thought. i have taken the red and blue lense covers off the lights up front (the lights are all LED and are clear when turned off, red&blue when turned on)

the statute states that a vehicle may have and use Red & Blue lights when useing them for the following reasons:

1. on private property and/or while attending an assemblage of historic vehicles. (Car Show)

2. on private property for testing purposes.

3. if the vehicle is used as an emergency vehicle or is being used as an escorting vehicle for law enforcement, funerals, parades, or other public events which have been cleared by the local law enforcement community.

4. off road. (not stated in the statute but that one is a given Rolling Eyes )

Well, i feel better now, knowing that i can't get in trouble any more for having them at the car show, i plan to keep a copy of the statute with me in case they pull me over again, i have no hard feeling towards the officers, they are just doing their job, but sometimes they need to sit down and read the rule book from time to time Wink

if anyone want's a copy of the statute on additional vehicle lighting, i'll send you one. Smile


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