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Has this ever happened to you?
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 05:17 AM
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Ok I'm new to the offroading scene but I recently had an oil leak on my baja. Has it ever happened that one or more of your bolts that attach your heads have came loose which made your pushrod tube loose causing a small oil leak at the gasket? I tihnk that's what happened with mine from constant rattling. Before the baja ran good it the bolts on the heads did come loose before which caused major problems so maybe it loosened itself again from offroading?


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Post Post subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 06:07 AM
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Please say it isn't so!

My guess (and this ain't pretty) is that your head studs may have started pulling loose from the soft material in the engine case. Are they 8mm with inserts, or are the 10mm? If they're 10's this is fairly common. There is no easy fix for this. You may need to tap your case and install case-savers and 8m studs.

I hope for your sake that this isn't the case (so to speak).

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Post Post subject: Re: Has this ever happened to you?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:51 PM
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right if i was you i would check to see how manhy pushrod tubes are lose. then check the torque of the head bolts. basicaly if you can get more than 1/4 of a turn before it clicks its safe to say your pulling your head studs out of the case. If they all click prity much right away then i would say you might have a dented push rod tube. Another way to check is if you set your tappets check them again if you find that the one with a lose pushrod tube is miles too lose then that again confirms that your pulling your head studs.


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Oh crap that sucks, I was saving to put in a new tranny. Maybe I should worry about the new engine I was planning on getting first haha. Well it was only one tube that was just a tid bit loose, just needed to be snugged but went ahead and snugged the others too just in case. I tihnk only one other one actually needed it, barely. But I will bust out the torque wrench and see. Will some street driving pull them out too? Like, can I just use the street to test the studs?

So if the studs are 8mm is it safe to assume they have the inserts or is there tearing apart involved? I'm pretty sure we used a 10.. to tighten them.


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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 09:48 PM
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If you had them work loose before you may have pulled the seals. They're kind of a one time item, so you may need to replace them Pushrod tubes are supposed to be one time use too, as they compress when you torque the heads. You might need to replace them too, snug or not they may leaky-leaky


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I was at my local VW shop today picking us some exhaust clamps and told them about it. They said it could be like what baja and dave were saying but fatal, I hope you're right, haha. I do not want to do anything major as this project has turned far more long term than I anticipated. If it does need to be torn down I will probably buy a new engine that is bigger as I had planned to do later and give this one to my dad and still ifx it anyway. I dunno we'll have to talk and pinpoint the problem before dropping big cash or doing something drastic.


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Billy...

Then you say you used a 10 to tighten them, that makes me a bit nervous. The dimensions given are for the actual stud diameter. The nuts on them have 15, 16, or 17mm outside diameters (if I recall correctly, I've seen them all). If you're not sure what size the studs are, grab your 8mm open end wrench and crawl underneath the beast. Find a spot between the case and the heads where you can get to the smooth section of the studs. If you have 8mm studs, your wrench will fit over the studs smoothly. If you have 10mm studs it won't.

If you have case savers installed with your 8mm studs, you can see them in the case. They look like little circles around your studs. They're basically big ass heli-coils. The ones next to your #3 cylinder (driver's side front) will usually be "deep sunk". In other words, they will be installed much deeper in the case so your circle will look like a hole when you look at it.

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I may be way off base but if the head studs are pulling and the head is moving then you should hear jugs slapping cause they would be moving to since the head is what holds the jugs in place. Could be just a screwed up pushrod tube. Only way is to torque, that and look for a damaged tube. Interested in finding out what.


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I revved it up really high the other day (i was showing a friend the bug for the first time) and didn't hear a thing, nor have I while driving. It wasn't loose persay I guess, just took a slight snugging. When it happened and how before is a mystery but it may have been like that from previous work done by the previous owner of the motor. The shop I took it to tightened them and said they were only on finger tight which explaineds my loss of power and my constant back firing. An ewasy fix I know, but at the time I never had heard of that and was trying everything else but that. So all the tightening it got was a slight snug. I am going to replace the push rod tubes soon though. For now, bmy baja will only be used on street for test purposes.


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look at the engine serial number if it starts with the letter H, those cases were commonly soft. i had one and unbeknownsed (sp?) to me, the case was useless.
as for the case savers on just about any other case, they'll work, but on H blocks, fish from dougs bugs and bunnies said, "it's like putting a bandaid on a bullet hole. it might (with a strong emphasis to fail) work, but you'll have to get a new case eventually...


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for now i have left it all as is, I thought it stopped leaking oil. Its strange no matter how high I rev the engine in neutral not a drop is found but after I drive it, then park, a good couple drops are underneath. My next idea is going to be to completely clean every bit of nasty off the engine and try revving it in place to see exactly where the problem starts. I'll even try driving it some to find some trace of evidence.


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well? what ended up being the problem??


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your gasket by your oil plug, the big gasket may have gunk in there, buy a new oil change gasket set and lightly greese it so that when you go to check you don't have any other variables....


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