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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 07:06 AM
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I just bought a jack for the baja, and I thought I'd share the idea with you guys. As most of you know, I'm in the RV industry, so I get many of my goofy ideas from motorhomes and trailers. This one is no different. This is a 5000 lb. capacity scissor jack used to level trailers. It folds up to about 4" tall and extends to 24". That should be plenty to get you out of any situation you get in with a well lifted bug The best part of it all, it's fairly lightweight. I would guess around 12 or 13 lbs. They used to be sold in pairs only, but this year they are available individually from your local RV dealer. I'm going to weld a cradle bracket to it so it's less likely to slip out from under the car, and I'm going to mount it somewhere on the roll cage where I can easily remove it when I need to. Mine also has a 3/4" nut on the end, so I don't have to carry anything but what's already in my tool kit. The one pictured is made by a different manufacturer and has a round key-hole end that requires a special goofy ass crank handle tool.

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May some day I should buy a jack...But the last few times we were out we just had 3 guys lift the car up. Mocho Man Style Smile

Now if I get a flat on the street...I think I can limp home as the front tires will still hold up the car with like 0 air presure and the backs will do fun up to 8 PSI.

I have been driving the car for 13 plus years now and never had a change my tire type flat.

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Is a scissor jack workable in soft sand or mud? Most people I know run high lift jacks on their offroad rigs, be they rock crawler, baja, or race rig. Not trying to knock the idea 57 just never woulda thought of a scissor lift is all.


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VWs are light. but nothing a tarp and a section of plywood will not fix.


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It has a fairly big footprint. I've actually thought of carrying a piece of 3/16" aluminum to pin to it, just in case, but I think it should be OK without it. i've never had a flat tire running around out there, but I have gotten into off-camber positions that I wasn't able to get out of where I had a tire off the ground... even with turning brakes. I used to carry a smaller scissor, and I've been glad I had it on more than one occasion.

As far as the Hi-Lift... It's a great jack. I carry one in my Tacoma. It's just so damn big, bulky, and heavy for a bug.

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I use to have a early 70's mopar bumper jack I would take with me.


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14.99 floor jack from wallyworld, big 4way(the long style)and a solid piece of 4x4 about 18" long. more to get unstuck than anything. Nothing looks funnier than a baja with a 5.60/15 and stock rim on one side of the rear but it gets you home.


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Flor jack will not evan get my car off the groun. It's too tall. I have to put the jack on a block 1st,


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I swear by Hi-Lift jacks. I have used them for years. Hell, you can even use one as an improvised winch, a clamp, an many other things - not the least of which is a JACK!

Stuck? Jack it way up, shove the car over a couple feet, and so on.

That said - 57 has a good idea as well. The only problem with a Hi-Lift is size. It is "huge by large" (even the smaller one), and unless you have a roofrack and can lock or otherwise securely mount it, it can be hard to find a spot on a bug.

Hi-Lift does make lockable universal monts, but the bumper of a big 4WD is a little different than a bug. Maybe across the engine cage? I'll have to find a place to mont mine soon!


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It's been a while, and I have countless hours into figuring out how exactly to get this jack mounted cleanly, out of the way, and easy to access in the event that I need it. It all came to me tonight. As things usually go, it was much easier than I thought....

First of all, I fabbed up a top plate that I bolted onto the top of the jack. I welded a rounded bracket to it so it wouldn't slip when I used the jack under the rear torsion tube or front roll cage support for the torsion tube. After it was assembled, I took the two bolts that held the upper jack bracket to the scissor arms. I replaced them with 3/8" hitch pins and cotter pins. That way, I could slide the upper bracket assembly off, slide it under the seat, and put the pins back in. Then I cranked the handle up just a tad until the jack hit the bottom of my seat mounting bracket, and I gave it some slight preload. That way it doesn't slide around under there.


Now it takes all of about two minutes to get the jack out of the car. It comes out the passenger's side (handy when you need to change a flat on the side of the road or the freeway). It's out of the way and looks OK. Best of all... It was fairly cheap.

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[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/57baja/jack1.jpg?t=1210996876[/img] Jack in pieces showing top mount and pins.

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/57baja/jack2.jpg?t=1210996876[/img] Jack assembled.

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/57baja/jack3.jpg?t=1210996876[/img] Jack installed.

Boy, I need to clean up that transition between my carpet and the door jamb, huh? My quick disconnect seat pins are a bit rusty, too. I guess that gives me something to do tomorrow!

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I have a scissor lift jack out of a Honda CRV. It's worked for me for years. I'll post a pic when I find it again. Rolling Eyes

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My quick disconnect seat pins are a bit rusty, too. I guess that gives me something to do tomorrow!
How does that quick release seat operate? I'm looking for ideas for access to the rear seat in mine.


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My quick disconnect seat pins are a bit rusty, too. I guess that gives me something to do tomorrow!
How does that quick release seat operate? I'm looking for ideas for access to the rear seat in mine.

Pull the rusty ass loops that you see, and two foot-long steel rods are attached to them. I actually notched the rods at the ends so they don't wiggle off while driving. The rods go through two pieces of steel angle bolted to the bottom of the seat, and through two 2"x1" steel rectangular tubing pieces welded to the seat bases. I have to fish the harnesses through the holes first in the seats, but it only takes a minute or two to get the seat out for the CHP if he needs to look at my VIN#.

LOL!

If you want pictures, I'd be happy to put them up. Start another thread so everyone can share and we'll get some posted up.

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