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Post Post subject: Re: AZ350X's '59
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 05:50 AM
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So, since ol' Leather's been on my butt about my torsions, I found a set of 28mm SAW long torsions, and a pair of Fox 10" travel bypass shocks (w/reservoir). Kar-Tek's website says that model of shock is 16.1" to 26" long (full compress to full extend). My car, with a jack under the motor and jacked to an axle angle of 20*, shows about 21" from upper to lower shock mount. I've no idea how much total travel I have (002 trans, 930 CVs and 3x3 arms, if anyone knows that off the top o' their head)- do these shocks sound like they'd fit/work well for this setup?

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Post Post subject: Re: AZ350X's '59
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 06:32 AM
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Sorry, just want you to be happy with what you are spending alot of time and money on.

First lets find out how much usable wheel travel you have. Your going to hate me for this, well two ways neither easy.
Take the shock/s off and the torsion bar out of your tube, put the spring plate back in since the Baja is already on stands take the wheel off the hub, let the hub down as far as it will go (slowly) while turning the drum or rotor, when it starts to bind stop, go back up a little till it spins freely again. measure from the floor to the stub axle. Now slowly raise while turning cv's and stop when it starts to bind, back down a bit,now measure from floor to the stub axle again. what is the difference? That is your usable wheel travel. Now subtract I think 2 inches for strap stretch. Anywhere in there is what you can use for setting up your suspension.

The other way is go to your helopad, chain your baja to the pad eyes and with the torsion in but shock removed to the same, just make sure your chains are tested and you use a good, no great tie down spot on the Baja.

You want or at least I want my shocks to be larger then my travel, I would rather not use some of it then overextend it. Hope this helps. Your going to love it when you are done.

Anybody have any corrections or add ons?

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Post Post subject: Re: AZ350X's '59
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Just the same of the same......
12.75 to 14" claimed from all I have found looking at the sites I know of.

A way I figure is to pull torsion bars, put the car back together, get the wheels off the ground, spin the tire if the cv binds lift a tire with a jack until the cv's don't bind as you spin the tire. Thats the bottom..measure the distance from the ground to the tire there, also put the angle finder on it, make note of your axle angles.
If it doesn't bind you maybe on the stock stops. if you want more down travel trim the stops, but only lower till it binds
Keep raising and spinning the tire till the cv bind again, thats the top of the travel..put the angle finder on it, make note of your axle angles.
.measure the distance from the ground to the tire there. do the math and that is your travel.

930's non race preped is a max angle of 25 degrees...


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Looks like I'm buying that set of 28mm SAW long torsions yo.

Just don't tell my wife.


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did you get that thing runnin ?


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did you get that thing runnin ?

Of course NOT! Keep changin' my mind about things. Now I'm pulling the shroud back off to remove the stock oil cooler and install an adapter for my external one. Daryll clued me in that the way I was planning on plumbing the external filter AND external cooler wasn't an optimum setup, so now I gots some changin' to do.

I think I gotta pull the motor again to get the shroud off- hopefully get that going later today after some honey-do's get done. If things go well, I'm hoping to fire it late today...

Oh- and my 28mm SAW torsions should be here tomorrow, so those will go in this week and I can start getting the rear suspension dialed in/axle angles set. Maybe THEN it will move under it's own power for once!


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Well, did some more work on the motor and suspension today (see "I'm sooooo bummed" in Suspension forum for suspension details). I did get my stock oil cooler pulled, adapter installed, and pro-comp cooler installed today. Carb/intake is on. Next step is to static time it and install plug wires. Torsions should be here tomorrow, so I'll probably be working on the suspension again tomorrow. I powdercoated part of my dash tonight, cut a hole for my Hobbs meter, so I can keep working on the gauges now. I'll post some pics of that when it gets closer. I do have some dash trimming to do before the dash pieces go back in. I used black wrinkle powdercoat to try and match the two-hole right side panel piece I bought for my oil temp and pressure gauges- not a perfect match, but at a glance it'll be hard to tell.


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"I used black wrinkle powdercoat to try and match the two-hole right side panel piece I bought for my oil temp and pressure gauges- not a perfect match, but at a glance it'll be hard to tell."

Spray both sides with the same stuff.


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I bought a new 2-hole right side piece yesterday at (cough) Karl's (it's black wrinkle finish). The left side pieces they had had THREE more gauge holes in them, and i only need the two holes. So, I reused my left side piece that only had butchered switch holes in it- it was bare aluminum. Soo, I coated it black wrinkle to match the right side one I bought. Pics to come...


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My torsions came today. Tonight I got the dash cut for the gauges and got wire run to the motor for them. About ready to start putting the interior back in now. In the next couple of evenings, my buddy and I will get the new torsions in and set up and hopefully get the axles in. Then, it's just a few finishing touches on the motor and it should be ready to fire off! Might need to do a little more powdercoating first- wanna do the valve covers after I install those breather fittings in them...


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WHERE'S THE STINKIN PICS ?????? Evil or Very Mad


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Alright, alright! Don't get hostile Rob!

Here's tonight's update. 28mm SAW torsions are in. Axles are in. Now it's finish up wiring and plumbing, install exhaust and oil filter, fill with oil, finish hooking up gauges (wires are run, just need to put blade connectors on and connect), charge/install battery, verify timing, and crank 'er up.

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This one's the gauges- Autometer Phantom oil press and temp


Here's my hour meter and the left side panel that I powdercoated with wrinkle finish black to match the other piece (store bought)


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Sure is pretty.

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thank you, was that so hard ? Laughing Laughing Laughing


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Getting ever closer tonight! Exhaust is on, basically everything is hooked up except the distributor wires (where do they go? coil?) and the remote oil filter (just picked up an HP1 filter tonight). Tomorrow, I think the battery goes in and we attempt to start it! Oh yeah- gotta get some fresh premium for it too. I HATE how discolored the exhaust pipes are- it was puking oil from the bad cylinder before the teardown. Is there any way to clean them up some?

Here's a pic with exhaust on:



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