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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 03:04 AM
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Every where I look everyone is talking down about super beetle's. whats the differences between the super beetle and the regular beetle other then the windshield and dash that would make people think that they arent worth making into a baja?


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Strut front end=sucky off road, cant lift front end

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Not only cant you lif the front end, but the first real rough road you go down the front end is going to be so far out of whack it wont be funnf, and the first time you get any air with the front end, the strut towers will buckle and the car is ruined (even with a strut tower support installed, been there, seen it happen).


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Baja kits do not fit supers too.


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ok those are all very good cases. but ........I have this hick friend where I am that had a baja super.... according to him there is a way to fix most of that stuff. I am not saying know more then yall, but maybe he knows something yall dont, ya know. you said once you go off road the front end goes out of whack what the alignment gets gos out?


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"according to him there is a way to fix most of that stuff" Buy a normal bug Smile

OR you build a full cage care and replace the front end with a link pin front end.

You still will have a hrd time finding a baja kit.


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well I dont really have to worry about finding a baja kit. someone already did that for me, I bought it in baja form. the only thing I dont have yet is a cage but I am working on that. I am patching the floor boards then wiring then I am gonna do the rollcage


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what is a link pin front end?????!?!?!?!


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Post Post subject: Re: whats wrong with Supers!
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I took a look at the picts of your car and I don't think you have a super. (judging from the picts)

There are two major front ends (3 if you count the McPherson strut on most supers).

The ball joint is very common and most hard core Baja guys want to replace them with a link pin. If you know what a ball joint is then if your front end has them thats what you have. I think the link pins came on the '63 and earlier and ball joint '64 and later (someone help me out with the years I can't remember exactly)

And the Link Pin end looks quite a bit different. Basically the arms that connect to the wheel come straight back from the beams and and have NO ball joints. A picture makes it a little clearer if anyone has one. (I still have the ball joint end on mine)


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I swear it is a super beetle. it had a lot of work done to it in the late 80's and early 90's


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To my knowledge the super beetle did not have a flat windshield. but I could be wrong. I don't know a whole lot about supers.


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To my knowledge the super beetle did not have a flat windshield. but I could be wrong. I don't know a whole lot about supers.

Sorry, your wrong a few did.

I'm not trying to talk bad about supers, I think they are great for on road, they're just really difficult to make them good for off road.

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71& 72 supers had flat windows, the wrap around windows started in 73.


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Thanks Myk and BugZyla, now I know. Good info just incase i need it some day!


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lol atleast I didnt have to explain it. well to my knowledge it doesnt need to much more to make it off road compatible.


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