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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 09:19 PM
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when i brake it takes a few pumpms for the shoes to evn reach the drum and even then it doesnt stop well. i bled my brakes. but it still wont brake. am i looking at a new master cylinder? or could i have other problems?


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try adjusting the stars so that the pads have less distance to travel to brake. Especially if your lil tihngs to keep em in place came out, they may have gotten out of adjustment. New masters arent ungodly expensive so if that's the route you take, its no problem. Try adjusting the starts and really making sure you got all the air outta the lines first though.


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thanks. yeah im gonna try and replace my mater cyl. cuz i bled my brakes yesterday but the pedal seems to compress all the way to the floor anyways. so i will se how it goe and let you know thanks again for the advice!


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I'd check the pads to see if they're worn down. If not, adjust them and go around and bleed them again and again. Might even be the main line inside the car itself. I ran into the same problem with mine. And ended up replacing the main brake line. Its a common thing for that line to go bad. Then, I finally replaced my master cylinder. Hope this helps out.

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ill try it out thanks for the info. yeah i just replaced the shoes so i know there good. now ive heard from different people to bleed right rear first and then i hear to bleed right front. which do i do for a 73 super beetle? i also dont see a right rear bleeder valve. could it be plugged? if so ho do i bleed it with no valve?


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Doesn't matter for bleeding any year they're all the same. Start at the right rear, left rear, right front, left front. Follow that path and you'll be fine. Maybe the adjuster has a plug over it. The adjuster is at the bottom that you use a flathead screwdriver to adjust the pads. The bleeder valve is at the top you can't miss it. If its not there, then go buy it and install it, bleeder valve that is. But, take a look inside first too make sure nothing else is missing. You know it might or could be your wheel cylinders. I also, had to replace mine cause the guy before me put on the wrong year wheel clyinders and I didn't want to chance it cause it is your brakes. Might want to get a good repair manual and read up on it. Good luck.

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You need to adjust your brakes, Yo have to djuster holes on each brake backing plate. both holes look like long ovals. VW brakes are manul adjust and you need to do this about ever 3 to 6 months. Do this first!!!!! You can not bleed your brakes with the brakes not adjusted.





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Thanx, for the pics. That's what I was trying to let ReefaCheefa him or her know. Now the pics will clarify. He should still adjust the pads and then bleed them again and again. Nice thing is, is that there isn't that much to a vw brake system. However, it sure can add up in price quickly as I found out myself.

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my uncle told me to adjust the brakes by backing up and braking repetitivly to kinda self adjust. i trust him and he is a good mechanic but i dont think he knows much about bugs, nor do i but i was just wondering if that will work? but thank you a lot for tyhe diagram and pic visual is a lot better


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LOL. Good one uncle. Please dude, follow all the advice we have given you at this point and you will have done it the right way. Good enough said.

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ReefaCheefa wrote:
my uncle told me to adjust the brakes by backing up and braking repetitivly to kinda self adjust. i trust him and he is a good mechanic but i dont think he knows much about bugs, nor do i but i was just wondering if that will work? but thank you a lot for tyhe diagram and pic visual is a lot better

On a lot of newer cars this trick will work by using the E-brake. On the VW, it is not equiped to do so.

Also, to clarify the picture, they are brake shoes for drums. You tend to get a giggle from the parts guys when ordering "pads" for drum brakes.

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my uncle told me to adjust the brakes by backing up and braking repetitivly to kinda self adjust. i trust him and he is a good mechanic but i dont think he knows much about bugs, nor do i but i was just wondering if that will work? but thank you a lot for tyhe diagram and pic visual is a lot better

You need to get under the car and get dirty. This will not work on a VW and most older cars. Self adjusting brakes started to show up in the 60's on most cars. VW's never got them so you need to adjust them your self. about once every 3 to 6 months.


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ok heres the deal i changed my master cylinder everything went fine now i go to bleed my right rear tire and the valve broke inside the wheel cylinder. what are my options? do i have to buy a new wheel cyl.? or how do i remove the broken peice inside it to replace it? i was kinda tryin to hurry cuz it was getting dark and unfortunatly i dont have a nice garage. so i fuged up and rushed and broke a valve. Mad


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You have two choices replace the cylinder or use an easy out on the bleader valve and try to match it up with a new one. It might be easier to just replace the cylinder.

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Good tip, replace the wheel cylinder and start over bleeding the brakes. I did mine yesterday and we had to bleed them a couple of times before we started to get pedal pressure. Don't pump the pedal so hard either, like slamming it and pushing on it hard. Take your time. Pump a few times then bleed and repeat 2 or 3 times per wheel as you go around. But, keep in mind that the brake pedal will feel alittle spongey until the pads or shoes wear in as you drive the baja around. If it don't feel right, then rebleed the system till it does. Also, be patient. This is something we all have to endure with owning a VW.

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